I just received this message from someone who believes socialism is of God….
“@Eric: I will say something that you and your people will think is evil. And you can practice battling the devil. But it will be me battling the devil…
“The Reason the Jews crucified Jesus Christ, because they were capitalist. They made money capitalizing off the sins of the world….
His socialism ended their Capitalism. Man created money to claim ownership on Gods resources, socialism fixes that mistake.”
Tim Spagnola Jr.
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Brother Tim,
I hope you don’t think you’re battling the devil when we join in discussion. I don’t believe you are the devil either. That’s actually what the devil would want us to believe. However, with those comments I do believe many of your thoughts are greatly deceived regarding this issue of free agency.
There is nothing more that God wants than for us to love one another and share with each-other. But Tim, He won’t force us. That’s the difference. The reason why love, donations, tithing, and generosity do work, is because it’s free-will and not forced-will. Love invites love and resentment invites resentment. And when a human being is forced, they will resent.
The reason why the Jews crucified Jesus is because He was teaching who the Father was, who He was, and who they (the Jews) were really born to be. Which is to become like God in pure love. (See John 10:34) Further, He was teaching them the true order of heaven; which is free-will in love.
What Jesus wasn’t doing: He wasn’t teaching them forced-will. He wasn’t forcing anyone to do anything. In other words, God isn’t going to force anyone to share; and He definitely isn’t going to force anyone to heaven. Those are “demmandments”, not commandments. “Come unto me” He says. It’s our choice; not His force.
I invite you to study history, Tim. Because we learn from history that we don’t learn from history. Every rise and fall of an empire was because of too much power The People gave the government. Just look at every dictator in the world and what they did. They took the power in the people and ironically destroyed them. That is forced-will vs. free-will. “Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.” John Acton
You cannot decide what to do with other people’s money unless you are committed to use force (a gun) to take that money from them. All socialist programs are mandatory. Heaven is not. That’s the difference. Jesus commanded us not to steal. Even if it’s “Legal”, done through a corrupt government system. It’s still theft.
I hope this brings to light why people all over this country will fight to keep their freedom and liberty. It truly can be lost in one generation. I will not allow it to be mine.
Ezra Taft Benson once said,
“Another notable counterfeit system to the Lord’s plan is collectivized socialism. Socialism derives its philosophy from the founders of communism, Marx and Engels. Communism in practice is socialism. Its purpose is world socialism, which the communists seek to achieve by revolution, and which the socialists seek to achieve by evolution. Both communism and socialism have the same effect upon the individual—a loss of personal liberty.”
Howard W. Hunter also said,
“If man will not recognize the inequalities around him and voluntarily, through the gospel plan, come to the aid of his brother, he will find that through “a democratic process” he will be forced to come to the aid of his brother. The government will take from the “haves” and give to the “have nots.” Both have lost their freedom. Those who “have,” lost their freedom to give voluntarily of their own free will and in the way they desire. Those who “have not,” lost their freedom because they did not earn what they received. They got “something for nothing,” and they will neither appreciate the gift nor the giver of the gift.”
So let us all do better. Let us recognize. But let us all do better with our choice to do better.
With all the free-willish Love I have to muster,
Eric Moutsos
